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EU Parliament's President Schulz+ to EuroFora on PACE a.o. Snowden Hearing on Web Spying

Written by ACM
Wednesday, 29 January 2014

 

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*Strasbourg/CoE/Angelo Marcopolo/- While Internet Spying Whistle-Blower Edward Snowden has just been proposed for a Nobel Peace Prize by 2 Norwegian former Ministers, amidst a "hot" on-going controversy which is due to be discussed even at the forthcoming Security Forum in Munchen (Germany) during this weekend, experienced EU Parliament's President, Martin Schulz, speaking to "EuroFora" at the conclusion of a Press point together with the newly elected President of CoE's PanEuropean Assembly (the 47 Member Countries-strong PACE, including Russia, etc), Anne Brasseur from Luxembourg (until now Chairwoman  of the Liberal Group of MEPs), expressed a Careful but Open stance on the proposal of PACE's competent Rapporteur, Dutch ChristianDemocrat/EPP MEP Pieter Omtzigt, to try to invite Snowden to a Hearing, before forthcoming Public Debates and Votes by the PACE, currently scheduled in Strasbourg for April.


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    Pieter Omtzigt is CoE's Rapporteur both on "Whistle-Blowers' protection", and on "Massive Eavesdropping" by NSA etc. at the Internet, but stressed the fact that in Edward Snowden case, these 2 CoE concerns are clearly united together in one. That's one among the reasons for which his Draft Double Report, discussed earlier this week in Strasbourg by the Legal affairs and Human Rights' Committee of CoE's Assembly, practicaly concludes, inter alia, by a clear proposal to Invite Snowden to a contradictory Hearing, in one way or another, despite well known obstacles and even reported threats.


    - Speaking earlier to "EuroFora", after an open meeting of PACE's Legal/Human Rights Committee, organized togeher with the Cultural affairrs Committee, to hear Experts for Internet Law, Encryption and Software on how to Protect Users' personal data from Spying and/or other Aggressions, Omtzigt told us that his Draft Report was due to be released Today, i.e. shortly before an exceptional Visit to the CoE by EU Parliament's President, German SocialDemocrat MEP Martin Schulz.


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    => Therefore, "EuroFora" asked afterwards Schulz  whether he supported, or not, CoE Assembly  Rapporteur's official demand, now just released also by writting, to invite Snowden for a Hearing on Internet Spying, which would be of a fundamentaly contradictory nature, together with other Experts.

 - "I think that it's very Difficult to Invite him", (Snowden), replied from the outset the experienced EU Parliament's President, Warning about probable Obstacles, but without denying, however, the Interest that such a Hearing can have.

 + Moreover, President Schulz spontaneously .. laughed a lot, when he learned from "EuroFora" that another, relevant idea of PACE's Rapporteur was also to try "to invite Snowden for a Hearing together with a Senior Official of the U.S. Administration", in order to get both sides of the story, and engage in a real Debate...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

 - "We had the same Problem in the EU Parliament", Schulz revealed.

- But "we (EU) can't solve it",  "because", apparently, it couldn't go without "Risks for Mr. Snowden"...., he went on to add, indirectly but obviously Warning for Dangers of eventual Aggressions (about which there were, already, reportedly several Threats, even in Public, inclusing to Brutally shoot and kill him..

- This goes, at least "for the Time being", President Schulz added, apparently Hoping that things might become a little Better, in the next few weeks or months,...


+ However, by simply abstaining from giving an explicit Reply, while Thoughtfully reflecting apparently on the pro and cons of "EuroFora"s last Question, about whether he would "Join Forces with CoE's Assembly", in order to find a Solution to the Problem of Snowden's Hearing, later Together; Schulz didn't exclude at all, but rather Left Open such a possibility for the Future...

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Earlier, indeed, he anounced his common wish, together with CoE's Assembly's new President Anne Brasseur, to "Intensify" even further, Cooperation and Joint Actions between EU Parliament and PACE, particularly in order to make good use of the PanEuropean body's capacity to integrate also Russia's, Ukraine's and other such Neighbouring Countries of Strategic importance for the EU, as Schulz told Journalists in Strasbourg, including "EuroFora".


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At any case, Omtzigt's Draft report notes the Fact that "Snowden  may not be in a position to Travel to Strasbourg", because "he is a Wanted man in the US", so that "the US might request the Extradition from France, the CoE's seat State, which may have some Obligations as such".


That's why, "as fellback", PACE's Rapporteur suggests that "we (CoE) could invite Mr. Snowden to participate in the Hearing by way of Tele-Conferencing, or the (PACE's) Commission could authorize (Omtzigt himself) to Visit him in Russia and report back to it", afterwards.


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+ Meanwhile, after another PACE Hearing, earlier this week in Strasbourg, of Experts on how to Protect Users from Internet Spying, London Metropolitan University Professor of International Law, Douwe Korff, speaking to "EuroFora", stressed that what was recently revealed about NSA's Massive Surveillance was a series of blatant Violations of Human Rights, which must stop, while also advising CoE  to ask all its Member States to publish all Treaties that they might have concluded in the Past on such issues.

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As for the famous Developer of the "Tor" project,  Jacob Appelbaum from the USA, speaking also to "EuroFora", mainly defended Tor's capacities to protect Users from Internet Spying at their Computers, but also warned about the Risk for illegal Spying to intervene at one point or another of the Cable Communications' Network, thereby showing the current Need for a Strong Political Movement in order to succeed to really Stop Massive Spying at the Internet. Last but not least, German Researcher Christian Grothoff, member of the "Pirates" party and Professor at Munchen's Technical University, stressed to "EuroFora" that, in his view, it's of crucial importance to use only Non-Proprietary, but "Open" Software, in order to be able to find out whether some Spying virus has been eventually instaured in a hidden code, or not.

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However, a systematic search of currently badly needed ways to "improve User Protection and Sec urity in Cyberspace", is expected through a Draft Report prepared by the new Head of the German Delegation at CoE's PanEuropean Assembly, ChristianDemocrat MEP Axel Fischer, who, replying to "EuroFora"'s questions, observed the fact that not even the "Non - Spy" bilateral deal between Governments, that German Chancellor Angie Merkel, together with French President Francois Hollande, had asked from the USA during the October 2013 EU Summit in Brussels (See relevant "EuroFora"s NewsReports from Brussels, then), hadn't yet been agreed until now, while, concerning his CoE's Report, he revealed that it is due to be definitively adopted by PACE's Committee on Culture, Science, Education and Media in the Middle of March at Moscow.

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After dressing a long list of Nightmaresque concrete Dangers which may currently threat Internet Users' personal data Security, Axel Fischer's Draft Report proposes a Double Series of possible Measures in order to Protect Citizens, both at a Global level (f.ex. via ICANN, UNO, IGF, etc), and at a European and PanEuropean area, mainly via the EU and CoE, due to be debated in Public and finally adopted at the Next PACE Plenary Session in Strasbourg on April.

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    Scientific innovation joined to Faith for Human Rights, Eastern Partnership and fight against the Crisis, but above all, the need to overcome the "Crisis of Trust" from EU Citizens, are the main priorities for new EU Parliament's President, Polish Jerzy Buzek, that a 555-votes-strong majority of MEPs on July 14,  Strasbourg made a living symbol of the fact that, 20 years after the fall of Berlin Wall (1989 - 2009) there is no more an Eastern or Western Europe, but only one Europe, as the head of the largest group of MEPs, ChristianDemocrats/EPP, Joseph Daul, stressed after the event.

    Speaking later to a group of Strasbourg's Journalists, including "EuroFora", the new EU Parliament's President clarified his stance on concrete topical issues, as f.ex. that of Turkey's controversial EU bid, which was one of the main issues of the June 2009 Electoral campain, clearly won by his party of ChristianDemocrats/EPP :  - "At present, Turkey does not fullfil none of EU conditions", he stressed, (See infra).

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    Buzek is well known in Strasbourg and to "EuroFora" as EU Rapporteur for the Framework Program of Scientific Research and Development of Technologies. A Natural Science Professor from the Historic and Religious landmark Polish City of Częstochowa, active in the famous Solidarnosk grass-roots social movement, he served 4 years as Prime Minister (1997-2001), before being elected as MEP in 2004 and 2009, after he brillantly won the latest EU Election at the head of his party (EPP) almost doubling the number of its MEPs from 15 to 28 !

    - "Innovation" and "Energy safety", as well as fight against the "Cimat change", but also "Eastern Partnership", the "Mediterranean", "Strategic partnerships" with Russia, the USA, etc, and the search for "solutions to the Economic Crisis" that EU Citizens "expect" from us, will be his "priorities", announced from the outset the new EU Parliament's President, reminding also that the quest for "Human and Civic Rights" played an important role in his experience with the Solidarnosc grass-roots social movement in Poland's History

    But, the most important of all, is the urgent need to overcome the "Crisis of Trust" between EU Institutions and the People he stressed : - EU "Citizens often don't understand us", denounced Buzek, launcing a call to "do anything for EU Citizens to understand our work" in EU Parliament : "We (MEPs) need to make EU Citizens involved" in "what we are doing every week, in Strasbourg and Brussels", he proposed. Pointing f.ex. to the hot "Debates" with "strong arguments" exchanged between MEPs during the preparation of their Legislative Decisions, in Committees, delivering often hard struggles between initially opposed points of view, long before forging a majority at the final vote, sometimes more than a year..

    Therefore, EU Parliament will be "open to your criticism, for discussion and exchange of views", he promissed to Journalists in Strasbourg.

    In this way, Buzek, in fact, highlighted "EuroFora"s main idea, that we strongly advocate since 1997-2007, to systematicaly and actively involve EU Citizens in public debates during the decision-making process of important EU measures, which affect their lives and the society in which they live, (and not only just a few weeks each 4 or 5 Years at the eve of EU Elections)...
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    This is related also to the symbolic gift that Buzek chose to give to the out-going former EU Parliament's President, Hans Gert Poettering, (2007-2009), his collegue in the ChristianDemocrats/EPP, who brillantly won 2009 EU Elections in Germany : A genuine statute of sainte Barbara crafted in Silesia's black Coal by Polish Miners : Those simple but strong people who fought for social change against some technocrats and bureaucrats disguissed into so-called "real-socialists" of old times. (PHOTO).

    It's enough to have seen a popular open air mass, at Warsaw's center, with many thousands of people, old and young, simple workers and intellectuals mixed together, with references to Poland's history and struggles for survival and liberty, through various ages, (as fex. that organized at the eve of CoE's 2005 panEuropean Heads of State and Government for the beatification of late Pope John-Paul II), in order to understand what such symbols mean..

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    But, overcoming the "Crisis of Trust" with EU Citizens obviously implies also to rectify any errors done in the past, fex. on Turkey's controversial EU bid, with controversial decisions taken in 1999 and 2004 to give a "candidate" status and to start EU negotiations, provoking an unprecedented series of 3 "No" to EuroReferenda and 3 Majoriy Abstentions in EU Parliament Elections : 1999, 2005 and 2009, (even if the latest one succeeded to decelerate and almost stop the drop of participation rates, opening hopes for vote's revival after an electoral campaign clearly critical to Turkey's claims in several mainstream EU countries)
    
    Therefore, Buzek was faced with manifold critical Questions on EU Enlargement, most of them citting concrete examples of certain political problems  :  But his replies were almost always given as a matter of general principle :

    F.ex. Questioned on the suspension of EU - Croatia talks because of a Border conflict with EU Member Slovenia, Buzek prefered to speak about principles :

- "We know that during Enlargement, the process can be blocked by failure to resolve this kind of issues",  This concerns also other enlargments' cases", and "these rules are always in force" he warned.


But Buzek avoided to directly reply to a queston on "French and German EPP' calls to define the Borders of Europe", as a German journalist asked him by making a reference to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, and German Chancellor Angie Merkel's, critical statements on Turkey at the June 2009 Electoral campain.    

- "Concerning Enlargement, there's always the same rules : There have to be Criteria, which have to be respected if a Country wants to join the EU", he started to simply reply.

- "For my country (Poland) it took us 15 Years to fullfil these Criteria", Buzek reminded, indicating, if proportions are kept, that Turkey, fex. would have to spend some 25 years before eventually joining the EU..

- "Countries wishing to join the EU need to Change their Systems", as we (Poland and other former Eastern European Countries) did, he stressed.

- "'For me, meeting the condition of Human Rights is one of the Key conditions for membership in the EU", preferring again to speak from the point of view of General Principles, on the occasion of an untimely question on Serbia (which is not even a candidate yet)...

- "Turkey" has, "first of all", to fullfil (EU) Copenhagen criteria". Bevause, currently, none of them is fullfiled by Turkey", New EU Parliament's President, denounced, speaking later to a group of Journalists, including "EuroFora".

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In particular, on Human Rights :  - "We (EU) can never forget Human Rights", because "this is at the very Foundations of the EU", Buzek added.

On the contrary, when he referred to EU Enlargment for the  "Western Balkans Countries ", Buzek appeared upbeat, finding "promising situations", despite "difficulties" in the Past, since "Countries are queuing to become EU members", and this "generated changes", as he said.

As for Russia, Buzek observed that it was a "very important" country, located "in the same Continent", Europe,  "close to our borders", and "we need eachother". "But Russia' has 'differend poblems : "They claim that their system is Democratic, but rules are differend", and we must be "aware of such differencies", fex. "on Human Rights", that we can't ignore, as he said;

Concerning China, where a journalist observed that the recipient of EU Parliament's latest "Sakharov prize" for freedom of thought is "still in prison", Buzek found that since the 1999 events in Tien Amin square, "we see differencies on Human Rights still today", and expressed his "support" for those who try to ameliorate the situation.

On the contrary, speaking recently to "EuroFora" he strongly supported the idea for an EU - Ukraine cooperation, fex. between Airbus and Antonov, in order to build a  less costly but more performant than the old and problematic A400M, new Military Transport Airplane : - "They (Ukranian Antonov Company) can certainly do it. I'm sure they can. It's a good Idea, and I'd be glad if it was done", he told us. (See : http://www.eurofora.net/newsflashes/news/airbusantonov.html )


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